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On Death and Dying

Nonfiction | Book | Adult | Published in 1969

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Chapters 10-12Chapter Summaries & Analyses

Chapter 10 Summary: “Some Interviews with Terminally Ill Patients”

A range of reactions were recorded in “how different members of a family cope with terminal illness” (188). Mrs. S.’s husband of over two decades had deserted her, leaving her with their children. In her interview, she demonstrated resiliency in being able to speak with the seminar participants. Having experienced great loss, expression came as a relief.


Mrs. C. was unable to face the prospect of her own death on account of her sense of duty to family obligations. She cared for dependents and dreaded how her death would impact them. As Kübler-Ross states, “It is understandable that such family burdens make it extremely difficult to die peacefully until these matters are discussed and some solutions found” (230). Mrs. L. was only able to accept help later on. For her, sharing with the seminar was less about her own need for comfort and more to retain a sense of ability and usefulness: “She offered to come to the seminar not because she wanted to talk about illness or dying but to be of some service while restricted and unable to function” (244).

Chapter 11 Summary: “Reactions to the Seminar on Death and Dying”

In contrast to the reactions of the patients themselves, “the hospital staff reacted with great resistance, at times [with] overt hostility, to our seminar” (247). In most instances, “the more training a physician had, the less he was ready to become involved in this type of work” (247). The most receptive doctor had previously been a nurse and was in the practice of caring for the terminally ill.


In Kübler-Ross’s experience, there were generally two categories of physicians who were able to internalize the seminar’s goals and speak candidly about the death process. The first were “the very young in the medical profession who either had experienced the death of a person close to them and worked through this loss or who had attended the seminar over a period of several months”; the second was a smaller grouping of “older physicians, who—we presume this only—grew up a generation ago in an environment which used fewer defense mechanisms and fewer euphemisms, faced death more as a reality” (248-49). On the whole, over 90% of doctors expressed feelings of anxiety or outright hostility when approached by the seminar or the author about participating in the seminar. It is likely that their reactions stem largely from insecurity, since it requires “both courage and humility to sit in a seminar which is attended not only by the nurses, students, and social workers with whom they usually work, but in which they are also exposed to the possibility of hearing a frank opinion about the role they play” (251).


In contrast to the physicians, the nurses were much more evenly split, eliciting much more positive or neutral reactions: “Many nurses felt a great lack of training in this area and had little instruction as to their role in the face of such crisis. They acknowledged their conflicts with more ease than the physicians” (253). Even more open and positive were the hospital chaplains, who were overwhelmingly welcoming of the seminar’s participants: “Among all of the many chaplains, ministers, and rabbis and priests who have attended the seminar, I have seen few who avoided the issue or who showed as much hostility or displaced anger as I have seen among other members of the helping professions” (255).


Patients were almost unanimously accepting of the seminar’s goals, either because they were able to process their experience in a healthy way or felt that they were providing a valuable service, “that their communications might be important, might be meaningful at least to others” (260). Even more surprisingly most “patients who were discharged maintained their contact on their own initiative by phone calls at times of crisis or of important happenings” (261). Kübler-Ross insisted that it was the role of the patients “to teach us, to help those who follow them later on, thus creating an idea that something will live perhaps after their death, an idea, a seminar in which their suggestions, their fantasies, their thoughts continue to live, to be discussed, become immortal in a little way” (262). The ultimate lesson learned was that “for the patient death itself is not the problem, but dying is feared because of the accompanying sense of hopelessness, helplessness, and isolation” (268).

Chapter 12 Summary: “Therapy with the Terminally Ill”

Work with the terminally ill is not for everyone; even for those with a natural aptitude, it takes a lot of time and experience. “To work with the dying patient requires a certain maturity which only comes from experience. We have to take a good hard look at our own attitude toward death and dying before we can sit quietly and without anxiety next to a terminally ill patient” (269). Tearing down defensive walls entails giving patients the opportunity to express their emotions and thoughts without judgment or expectation. For one patient, Mr. E., an emotional block caused him to experience somatic symptoms that convinced him he was dying. It was in fact his guilt that caused him to break down physically, as he “was convinced that he had to be punished for all those bad thoughts and that he had to endure much pain and suffering to alleviate his guilt” (272).


The therapeutic benefits of the seminar meetings lasted far beyond the actual meetings, as participants gravitated toward one another. The author relates: “We have noticed patients sitting together in the lobby of the hospital who have been interviewed in the seminar, and they have continued their informal sessions like members of a fraternity” (274). At the end, it is often the good work of those who have surrounded the patient that see the patient off into a peaceful death: “Watching a peaceful death of a human being reminds us of a falling star; one of a million lights in a vast sky that flares up for a brief moment only to disappear into the endless night forever” (276).

Chapters 10-12 Analysis

The difference in how patients react can be vast. While one patient might be open to talking and sharing, it may take others a long time to share the true nature of their experience. Kübler-Ross relates interviews with five different women, many of whom had experienced loss, but who handled loss in radically different ways. The first patient demonstrated a great need to vent her emotions and thoughts about her various losses; only then was she able to process grief at her impending death. Without anyone to listen to her, she had been emotionally stunted. Now, with someone to finally listen receptively, she was at peace.


The next interview related the anxiety that comes with feeling that death is rushing headlong at breakneck speed, and without proper time to arrange for the care of loved ones. Family obligations play a major role in the mental health of the terminally ill; the lack or burden of familial duties can decide whether or not the process of dying is a peaceful one. The ideal situation would be one in which dependents could be perfectly cared for and all situations prearranged, but at the very least the patient is set at ease if they can at least discuss their anxieties. The lack of opportunity to express anxiety is often the cause of overwhelming anger and sorrow. Lack of agency can foster increased feelings of isolation, while participation in the seminar is a situation in which agency can be enacted. When the seminar participants emphasized the patient’s teaching role, it empowered them. It gave them a sense of purpose in the last days of their lives when most other aspects of their previous life and personal agency had been stripped away.


While the patients and participants found the seminar important and necessary, it was largely met with resistance and hostility by the hospital personnel with whom patients interacted and from whom they required help. In the opening chapters, Kübler-Ross observed an inverse relationship between technology and human flourishing. In a parallel fashion, she observed an inverse relationship between the amount of formal education and training that an individual had and their hostility toward the seminar. The more highly trained physicians were almost exclusively hostile, while the nursing staff, therapists, and chaplains—all with fewer years of medical training—demonstrated much more positive reactions to the goals and mission of the seminar. It was no coincidence that most of the doctors who were able to process conversations about death positively were those who had personal experience with the death of loved ones, or much older doctors who had many years of experience dealing with all aspects of patient care. The doctors’ hostility to the seminar echoes Byock’s thoughts about how doctors behaved in Kübler-Ross’s time: “The medical culture of the era was highly authoritarian. A patient’s values, preferences, and priorities carried little weight. Doctors informed patients of the decisions they had made and patients accepted those decisions” (Byock).


Many physicians reacted negatively to the seminar due to their own pride and anxiety about their performance or abilities. In many instances, doctors avoided frank discussion about death or other intimate circumstances because it would open them up to criticism about their ability to handle things with care and sensitivity. In contrast, the nursing staff of the hospital was much more open and capable of bringing conversations about death into the light, expressing relief that more work was being done to create a process in which the dying could be cared for. The lack of training offered to hospital personnel proved to be a major obstacle in caring for the dying, a gap which only the nursing staff was able to voice free of fear.


It became clear that more education and the ability to gain experiential knowledge was crucial—to doctors, nurses, therapists. The ability to communicate and be available for the patient proved time and time again to be crucial. Even when the patient only desired to be of use in sharing their experience, the opportunity to speak about their condition proved invaluable. Their conversations were a way to grasp a sliver of immortality, leaving behind a legacy that would live on, even if only in the work of the seminar.


Those with an understanding of the dying process are most fit to care for terminally ill patients. It is equally important to have faced the possibility—and very real inevitability—of one’s own death.

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