We Don't Talk About Carol

Kristen L. Berry

We Don't Talk About Carol

Kristen L. Berry
58 pages1-hour read
Fiction
Novel
Adult
Published in 2025

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Chapters 24-31Chapter Summaries & Analyses

Content Warning: This section of the guide includes discussion of illness, child death, emotional abuse, and racism.

Chapter 24 Summary

Dorothy identifies the bracelet as belonging to her friend Sally Dunn based on the “SD” initials, and Stanley identifies it as his sister Sally’s bracelet. Sydney explains that she discovered it in a hidden compartment inside her aunt Carol’s trunk, which Carol’s ex-boyfriend Michael Hall had kept for decades. The revelation sends a wave of suspicion through the party. Sydney notices a guest, a redheaded woman named Joyce, leaving abruptly. Joyce had seemed uncomfortable with the glowing stories being told about Michael.


Sydney follows Joyce outside and learns that she had a frightening experience with Michael. Joyce recounts how she once accepted a ride home from Raymond Green, with Michael in the passenger seat. Instead of taking her home, they drove past her house and ignored her pleas to be let out. Terrified, Joyce escaped by jumping out of the car at a stoplight while the two boys laughed. She never told anyone, fearing that she wouldn’t be believed because Michael was so popular. 


A final diary entry from Carol, dated January 11, 1965, reveals her growing unease with Michael’s long, mysterious drives with Raymond.

Chapter 25 Summary

Sydney has a nightmare in which her future daughter is swallowed by a giant hydrangea bush while Sydney is trapped and drowns in her kitchen. After waking up, she feels guilty for forgetting to call Malik and sends him a voice message downplaying the events in Raleigh. Later, she receives an email from a reporter informing her that the popular true-crime podcast The Unforgotten is considering an episode on the missing girls.


Joyce’s story helps Sydney form a new theory that Michael and Raymond were partners who hunted girls together, with Raymond’s creepy reputation serving as a cover for the charismatic Michael. She speculates that Carol found Sally’s bracelet, confronted Michael, and was then murdered. To cover his tracks, Michael filed a missing-person report and later asked his sister to retract it, leading the police to believe that Carol was alive and well. The realization that Michael has her home address fills her with fear. Determined to find more proof, Sydney uses Zillow to identify a house next to Raymond’s former property that had been built in 1920 and never successfully resold, hoping to find a long-term resident who might have witnessed something.

Chapter 26 Summary

Sydney visits the house next to Raymond’s overgrown former property and meets Jeremy, a registered nurse caring for his elderly father, Alvin. Alvin, who has Parkinson’s disease but a sharp memory, lived in the house when the girls disappeared and agrees to speak with her.


Alvin recalls the night of July 4, 1964, the day after Geraldine Williams went missing. He was awake rocking Jeremy against his shoulder when he looked out his kitchen window into Raymond’s yard. A firework suddenly illuminated the scene, revealing Raymond standing near a large hydrangea bush, leaning on a garden tool and looking winded. Alvin tells Sydney that he saw dark splotches covering Raymond’s light-colored T-shirt and believed it was blood.

Chapter 27 Summary

After pulling into the parking lot of the police station, Sydney receives a message from her fertility nurse, who reassures her that recent spotting is a normal and positive sign of embryo implantation. At the Raleigh Police Department, Sydney is initially dismissed by a desk officer, but Detective Bruce Higgins, who sometimes works on cold cases, overhears her and agrees to take her statement.


Sydney presents her full theory about Michael and Raymond, detailing the accounts from Joyce and Alvin and giving Higgins the bracelet belonging to Sally Dunn. Higgins makes no promises but agrees to speak with his commander. As Sydney leaves, she’s confronted in the lobby by Yvonne. She sternly warns Sydney that she’s risking a defamation lawsuit if she continues to make accusations against her brother.

Chapter 28 Summary

Back in Los Angeles, Sydney worries about Yvonne’s legal threat. On Friday morning, the day of her pregnancy blood test, the episode of The Unforgotten about the missing girls is released. She and Malik listen together as the podcast details the case, calling it the story of the “Raleigh Six, and the Creek Killer” (236). The episode features Joyce’s story and refers to Michael as “Suspect B” to avoid legal issues. Afterward, Sydney shares the podcast widely.


Later that day, the fertility clinic calls to confirm that Sydney’s pregnancy test is positive. Overwhelmed with joy and relief, she and Malik embrace and celebrate the news that they’re finally going to be parents.

Chapter 29 Summary

On Thanksgiving morning, Sydney experiences pregnancy nausea while running an errand for Malik. She sees a news report that, due to public pressure from the podcast, the police are being urged to excavate Raymond Green’s former property, specifically the area around the hydrangea bush.


At Thanksgiving dinner, Sydney’s mother angrily confronts her for publicizing their family’s private history. Sydney pushes back, explaining that the family’s enforced silence about their traumatic past was damaging to her and Sasha. Grace ends the argument by claiming to have a headache and retreating to her bedroom. Afterward, a supportive Sasha tells Sydney that she’s finally ready to move out on her own. As Sydney prepares to leave, she receives a voicemail from Detective Higgins, who informs her that the police have secured a warrant and will begin excavating Raymond’s property the next morning.

Chapter 30 Summary

Barbara video-calls Sydney to show her the police excavation underway at Raymond’s former property. That night, the community holds a vigil where six enlarged photographs of the missing girls are displayed on easels, including one of Carol that Barbara had arranged to have printed. Some time later, Sydney and Malik go to their first ultrasound appointment. They’re overjoyed when they see their baby and hear a strong, healthy heartbeat. In this moment of deep happiness, as Malik steps out of the room, Sydney checks her phone. Barbara has texted that the police found something.

Chapter 31 Summary

The first remains discovered under the hydrangea bush on Raymond’s property are identified as those of Marian Bradbury. Soon after, two more sets of bones found near the creek are confirmed to be those of Sally Dunn and Geraldine Williams. Autopsies reveal that all three girls were strangled. Detective Higgins tells Sydney that there’s still not enough evidence to arrest Michael, while Raymond’s whereabouts remain unknown.


A news article from The News & Observer reports that a jewelry box was found buried with Sally, containing trophies from the victims, including items belonging to Bettie Brooks and Loretta Morgan, whose bodies have not been found. The article includes photographs of the fifth item—a high-school class ring inscribed with the initials “MEH”—which the police were asking the public to help identify. Sydney immediately calls Detective Higgins to report that the ring must belong to Michael, whose full name is Michael Eugene Hall. Soon after, Sasha requests an urgent meeting and reveals the results of a DNA test she took. Her online family tree shows that Carol had a child, and the database has identified a person named Wesley Jones as their cousin.

Chapters 24-31 Analysis

The testimonies of Joyce and Alvin reveal how a community’s collective perception, shaped by the social pressures of the civil-rights era, can obscure and enable violence for decades. Joyce’s account of being trapped in Raymond’s car highlights how Michael’s charismatic reputation served as an impenetrable shield, making his predatory actions seem unbelievable. Joyce’s decision not to report the incident because “[e]veryone liked him” and she “didn’t think anyone would’ve believed [her]” demonstrates how a perpetrator’s social standing can enforce a victim’s silence (208). In a Black community facing intense external threats, a figure like Michael—a “golden boy”—represented a source of pride and aspiration, making any accusation against him a potential betrayal of communal solidarity. Alvin’s long-held memory of Raymond near the hydrangea bush with what he was “fairly certain […] was blood” on his shirt is another fragment of truth kept private for 60 years (223). These revelations, spurred by Sydney’s investigation, illustrate how individual choices to remain silent, whether from fear or uncertainty, have contributed to a larger communal silence that protected predators and allowed mysteries to fester.


The narrative structurally intertwines Sydney’s fraught journey toward motherhood with her investigation, creating a juxtaposition between the creation of new life and the unearthing of past death. This parallel is most clearly expressed in Sydney’s nightmare, where her future daughter is swallowed by a giant hydrangea bush while Sydney herself drowns in her kitchen. The dream merges her two greatest anxieties—losing a child and the unresolved horror of the murders—into a single vision where the symbol of the hydrangea bush becomes a direct threat to her future. This fusion of personal and historical trauma continues when Sydney receives a reassuring call from her fertility nurse about a positive sign of pregnancy just moments before she enters the police station to confront a grim history. The connection intensifies when the joy of hearing her baby’s healthy heartbeat is immediately broken by Barbara’s text: “Sydney…they found something” (256). These structural choices link Sydney’s personal hopes directly to the discoveries of the past, suggesting that her drive to solve Carol’s disappearance is part of a larger need to create a legacy of truth for her own child.


The confrontation during Thanksgiving dinner brings the novel’s central conflict into the domestic sphere, directly addressing how Silence Perpetuates Family Harm. Grace’s fury over the podcast exposes the family’s unspoken rule of protecting their reputation by burying painful history. Her accusation that Sydney is airing their “dirty laundry” reveals a deep-seated fear of external judgment that has governed their family dynamics for generations. Sydney’s response indicates a turning point in her character arc. Instead of reacting with equal anger, she reflects on her therapist’s insight that anger is a secondary emotion, which allows her to see the pain and loneliness behind her mother’s defensiveness. By explaining that talking about traumatic events “steals their power” (247), she explicitly rejects her mother’s code of silence and demonstrates her own journey toward emotional maturity. This moment isn’t just about the missing girls; it directly challenges the emotional suppression that has damaged her family. Sasha’s subsequent decision to finally move out serves as immediate validation, demonstrating that breaking the cycle of silence can lead to personal liberation and healing.


Through the Unforgotten podcast, the narrative shows how modern media can challenge historical injustice and mobilize public empathy that was denied to the victims decades earlier. The podcast explicitly frames the story within the context of systemic neglect, forcing a confrontation with How Systemic Racism Shapes Public Response to Hardship. Sydney explains to her family, “My therapist says talking about the things that scare us steals their power […] And I believe that. I also believe that’s why true crime podcasts are so popular. Because through listening to them, we face some of our worst fears” (247). This contrasts the standard of silence and repression set by her mother, extending her own desire for truth and justice to the community at large. By naming the victims the “Raleigh Six,” the hosts give the girls a collective identity and a sense of importance that was absent from the initial, dismissive police response in the 1960s. 


This public pressure generates the necessary political will for law enforcement to finally excavate Raymond’s property, an action that the families couldn’t secure for 60 years. This outcome reflects a real-world dynamic where media attention on cold cases involving people of color can compel institutional action. The community vigil, attended by a new generation of young Black women, emphasizes the lasting relevance of the case and the success of Sydney’s efforts to make the public care about these forgotten girls. However, the narrative returns the conflict to Sydney’s personal life through Sasha’s DNA test results revealing that Carol had a child. This final cliffhanger reframes the mystery, suggesting that Carol’s disappearance is tied as much to personal family secrets as it is to crimes within the community, weaving the public horror and private trauma together.

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